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1st scratch on Open Letter

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Newsgroup: borland.public.cppbuilder.non-technical

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wrote on 25-Sep-2004:

It's hard to be all things to all people, but I've made an initial scratch
on the open letter from the development community while coming back on the
airplane today.
This draft letter can be found at my blog - www.simventions.com/gustavson
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Bob Swart replied on 25-Sep-2004:

Hi Paul,
  (snip)
Great work, thanks! I'll mention/link to it on my site. Should we
  comment here, or at your blog (or both?)
  FWIW, the list of customers whp use/rely on C++Builder should perhaps be
  "weighted" somehow, since some clients only use it for a single seat
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Paul Gustavson replied on 25-Sep-2004:

"Bob Swart" wrote in message news:✉chello.nl...
    (snip)

Thanks. I will monitor both. The newsgroups work well for threaded
    conversations. Whereas, I would suggest comments at the blog attempt to
    reflect some degree of congruence (agreement) with the original post since
    that informaton can be more persistent and accessible than any newsgroup
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Kristofer Skaug replied on 26-Sep-2004:

Paul Gustavson wrote:
      (snip)

I've got a few goodies for you on this account.
      Our customers are the major players in the European space industry,
      including the European Space Agency, Astrium, Alenia Spazio, Alcatel,
      SAAB Space. In the U.S. we have also delivered systems for NASA/JPL,
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Boian Mitov replied on 26-Sep-2004:

Hi Kristofer,
        If you love to do those types of things with BCB, please chack out
        www.mitov.com . There is a lot of signal processing and image processing
        stuff in the form of VCLs designed to work with native C++ Builder data
        buffers. You may like it ;-)
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Kristofer Skaug replied on 26-Sep-2004:

Boian Mitov wrote:
          (snip)

Looks very interesting, we'll be sure to check it out more closely.
          --
          Kristofer
          
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Leroy Casterline replied on 26-Sep-2004:

"Kristofer Skaug" wrote:
        (snip)

Man, you do cool things! I'm jealous.
        
        
        
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Paul Gustavson replied on 26-Sep-2004:

"Kristofer Skaug" wrote in message
        news:41567dec$✉newsgroups.borland.com...
        (snip)

Thank you for your offerings. I have updated the open letter based on your
        comments (draft 1.1). However, for that material to stick, I will need
        further validation. You can simply send me an email privately that
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Kristofer Skaug replied on 26-Sep-2004:

Paul Gustavson wrote:
          (snip)
Done.
          --
          Kristofer
          
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Paul Gustavson replied on 27-Sep-2004:

"Kristofer Skaug" wrote in message
            news:415715c4$✉newsgroups.borland.com...
            (snip)

Thanks!!!
            
            
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Mark Jacobs replied on 26-Sep-2004:

I hope you filled in the short questionnaire at
        http://www.critical.co.uk/surveys/bcbfwd/bcbfwd.htm with some of this stuff -
        it's exactly what we need to convince Borland management that BCB is here to
        stay, irrespective of their desire to subvert it in favour of CBX. All data
        collated from this questionnaire will be presented to Paul Gustavson (in any
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Kristofer Skaug replied on 26-Sep-2004:

Mark Jacobs wrote:
          (snip)

Yes, I already did.
          --
          Kristofer
          
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Mark Jacobs replied on 26-Sep-2004:

Thanks.
            --
            Mark Jacobs
            "Kristofer Skaug" wrote in message
            news:415747ed$✉newsgroups.borland.com...
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Andrue Cope [TeamB] replied on 27-Sep-2004:

Paul Gustavson wrote:
  (snip)

It's a very good letter but if you can forgive me for being picky then
  here are two comments:
  You use the term "Long live software" - should this be "long life
  software"?
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Paul Gustavson replied on 27-Sep-2004:

Thanks Andrue.
    Can you list some of the government agencies that use that forensic
    application?
    (snip)

Actually it should be "long-live assets" live is pronounced as you would
    use it with the phrase "live it up" or "don't try to live your life in one
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Alisdair Meredith (TeamB) replied on 27-Sep-2004:

Paul Gustavson wrote:
      (snip)

I think that should be 'long-lived', at least for a UK reader ;?)
      AlisdairM(TeamB)
      
      
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Paul Gustavson replied on 27-Sep-2004:

"Alisdair Meredith (TeamB)" wrote:
        (snip)

hmm. I believe you are right...
        To be sure - I used the Google verifier...
        long-live assets: 88 / long-live asset: 4 - Total = 92 hits
        long-lived assets: 69,800 / long-lived asset: 12,300 - Total = 82,100 hits
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Doug replied on 28-Sep-2004:

"Paul Gustavson" <✉NOSPAMsimventions.com> wrote:
          (snip)

Paul,
          I just looked at version 1.3. Under DOD, you can add
          the Naval Air Systems Command, and under the Department of
          Homeland Security, you can add the US Coast Guard.
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Andrue Cope [TeamB] replied on 27-Sep-2004:

Paul Gustavson wrote:
      (snip)

Unfortunately not. Our product sales/services people say they'd want to
      get permission from the customer and this could take a long time and is
      something they'd rather not do. One possible issue is that those
      agencies try to avoid being seen as endorsing any single product. I can
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Paul Gustavson replied on 27-Sep-2004:

"Andrue Cope [TeamB]" wrote:
        (snip)

Hmm. Interesting point. Maybe text reflect that information could be added
        to the letter (as a footnote). How does this work?...
        "The identification of any company, organization and/or agency in this
        letter, hereon referred to as an entity, that sponsors or uses software that
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Andrue Cope [TeamB] replied on 27-Sep-2004:

Paul Gustavson wrote:
          (snip)
That's the second time in as many weeks I've had to visit the marketing
          department - I feel ill :)
          [snip first disclaimer]
          Their comment was kind of non-comittal. Possibly that's just because
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Andrue Cope [TeamB] replied on 27-Sep-2004:

Paul Gustavson wrote:
          (snip)

Just saw that message so here's some additional info for my offering:
          www.vogon-international.com
          http://www.itsecurity.com/tecsnews/aug2004/aug47.htm
          http://www.guardian.co.uk/child/story/0,7369,777108,00.html
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Vesty replied on 27-Sep-2004:

Alisdair Meredith (TeamB) wrote:
        (snip)

Yeah... but what would a Pom know about speaking English!!?
        --
        Vesty.
        
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Alisdair Meredith (TeamB) replied on 27-Sep-2004:

Vesty wrote:
          (snip)

          About as much as we know about playing cricket I guess?
          
          AlisdairM(TeamB)
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Vesty replied on 28-Sep-2004:

Alisdair Meredith (TeamB) wrote:
            (snip)

You said it, not me :).
            --
            Vesty.
            
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Marian Krivos replied on 27-Sep-2004:

Some interesting statistics about Programing languages:
  http://www.dedasys.com/articles/language_popularity.html
  
  
  
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Paul Gustavson replied on 30-Sep-2004:

"Marian Krivos" <✉atlas.sk> wrote in message
    news:✉newsgroups.borland.com...
    (snip)

very interesting indeed. Seems C/C++ both still have quite a bit of
    popularity.
    
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OBones replied on 30-Sep-2004:

Paul Gustavson wrote:
  (snip)
Very good, apart from the few missing spaces when read with Mozilla.
  If you want to add the JVCL as a not-for-profit group that has an
  investment into C++ Builder, please do so.
  Cheers
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